Twitch Chat for [Kipp] Strat Chat #15: New Route (Guest Behemoth87)

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[0:00:00] kolChish: PogChamp

[0:00:21] TrueMoss: lez do this thangggggg

[0:00:22] OwlRTA: FUNgineer

[0:00:52] OwlRTA: oatsC2

[0:00:55] OwlRTA: oatsC4

[0:03:23] icallpeach: :)

[0:03:42] OwlRTA: (1) (1) (1) (1) lol

[0:06:12] OwlRTA: you forgot behemoth's any% pal time Kappa

[0:06:34] fruitbatsalad: yo it's the Croc RTA WR holder!

[0:06:40] icallpeach: Hey Behemoth :)

[0:06:54] TrueMoss: https://www.twitch.tv/behemoth87

[0:07:12] OwlRTA: botwoon rta WR holder too Kappa

[0:07:15] Actu8: Botwoon RTA missing from the list FeelsBadMan

[0:07:20] FreyasSpirit: behe's croc/botwoon rta is sooooo good

[0:07:37] outlawghostcheetah: hey guys

[0:07:46] outlawghostcheetah: I just got a1;08 in my second run ever

[0:08:53] Makotroid: SnowHappy FUNgineer SnowHappy

[0:08:58] OwlRTA: overfiend's face behind behemoth monkaS

[0:09:01] Actu8: easy @outlawghostcheetah

[0:10:02] outlawghostcheetah: I stole super metroid from wal mart when i was a kid that was my first experience lol

[0:10:31] Actu8: :O

[0:10:43] fruitbatsalad: can you turn up behemoth a little? he's quiet compared to kipp

[0:11:23] outlawghostcheetah: @TheReverseSlinky had to work hard

[0:11:53] outlawghostcheetah: but it is getting easier

[0:12:02] Actu8: is that time PRKD? @outlawghostcheetah

[0:12:02] Kipp: fruitbGood

[0:12:12] outlawghostcheetah: no kpdr

[0:12:31] Actu8: SeemsGood

[0:12:41] Kipp: first strat chat in a while

[0:12:45] Kipp: feel free to let me know about sound

[0:12:48] Kipp: I'll try to adjust

[0:14:52] Actu8: green brinstar cac

[0:19:24] OwlRTA: when is behemoth doing low% and rbo? Kappa

[0:23:26] Actu8: twitchRaid

[0:23:29] OwlRTA: behemoth87 8 years ago the best first segment you could ever hope for. one slip up and that was missing the falling tile in ceres escape for a damage knock back. unbelievably consistant play

[0:23:31] OwlRTA: Kappa

[0:24:11] Kipp: yo Auth thanks!

[0:28:08] FreyasSpirit: huh, we never thought about angle down there

[0:29:32] UNHchabo: "put me through" is right side of attic, named after an Oats clip where he shouts that :-D

[0:29:57] Actu8: yep

[0:30:05] Actu8: PUTMETHROUGH

[0:37:50] FreyasSpirit: freyasLove no reset runs

[0:38:23] matrixugly: No resets are great for the viewers too

[0:38:30] matrixugly: as well as the runner :) IMO

[0:39:19] ARealCutie: no resets are really good for practicing doing all of late game back to back

[0:39:38] ARealCutie: you can practice late game but they really help practice doing it all at once in a run setting

[0:40:25] fruitbatsalad: good advice fruitbGood

[0:40:26] fruitbatsalad: i like it

[0:40:48] Makotroid: I wrote the word "no" on my reset button, can recommend SnowHappy

[0:40:52] matrixugly: "Oh I gotta learn ocean fly to get sub hour!" Kappa

[0:40:55] fruitbatsalad: lol Mako

[0:41:02] fruitbatsalad: the "no" button

[0:41:17] Makotroid: lol, hey fbs btw

[0:41:21] matrixugly: yeah thanks Behe!

[0:41:28] icallpeach: Thanks for your time Behemoth

[0:41:29] fruitbatsalad: gg Behemoth

[0:41:31] Makotroid: FUNgineer FUNgineer FUNgineer SnowHappy

[0:41:39] TrueMoss: thanks behemoth!

[0:41:43] TrueMoss: <3

[0:41:47] Skinomarsh: FUNgineer FUNgineer FUNgineer

[0:41:59] behemoth87: pleasure :)

[0:42:05] OwlRTA: when is low%? Kappa

[0:42:08] CynanMachae: FUNgineer FUNgineer

[0:42:27] Actu8: low% speed FUNgineer

[0:43:02] matrixugly: yo @TrueMoss :)

[0:43:09] TrueMoss: https://wiki.supermetroid.run/Any%25

[0:43:31] matrixugly: like CoolKid is LUL

[0:43:46] matrixugly: he's got the motivation to carry through

[0:43:49] Actu8: coolkid is ceriSmart

[0:43:51] MechaShiva76: when i had a 50:xx time and tried new route for the first time, it took me 3 hours :D .... :(

[0:44:51] Actu8: at least you finished @mechashiva76 FeelsGoodMan

[0:45:08] ARealCutie: 43 Kappa

[0:45:10] fruitbatsalad: my opinion is I hate moat

[0:45:22] MechaShiva76: i actually recommend doing low ice before new route :D

[0:45:25] Actu8: gitgud @fruitbatsalad Kappa

[0:45:25] outlawghostcheetah: second run today old route got 1;08

[0:45:26] InsaneFirebat: My opinion is run old route until you don't think you can get anymore out of it

[0:45:27] MechaShiva76: that's how i got into it.

[0:45:29] thabanana: 45-46

[0:45:31] richman3mm: I think sub 50 is reasonable

[0:45:37] thabanana: i switched at 47 and it was hard

[0:45:38] Actu8: 47

[0:45:49] richman3mm: but to me, it's more about how consistent you are than your time.

[0:46:01] outlawghostcheetah: i use the charge here

[0:46:14] richman3mm: there's nothing wrong with moving to new route early if you can complete runs honestly

[0:46:33] outlawghostcheetah: new route is harder because of things like the moat

[0:46:41] fruitbatsalad: I've got a 46:xx and I'm still having fun with KPDR and still finding time saves. 45:5x might be the cut off if I ever switch

[0:46:44] outlawghostcheetah: dont have to worry about the moat in old

[0:46:52] Actu8: think he still uses that strat

[0:47:24] ARealCutie: no wait is pretty hard

[0:47:26] InsaneFirebat: cat climb... so hard...

[0:48:59] Actu8: 44:44 PogChamp

[0:49:47] outlawghostcheetah: i like some strats just because they look cool im not wr material or anything lol just casual

[0:49:52] UNHchabo: even the top players don't use *every* optimal strat

[0:50:20] outlawghostcheetah: lavaspark looks cool not necesary to get up there

[0:50:33] outlawghostcheetah: moonfall is cool too but do i really need it?

[0:50:37] Actu8: indeed, behemoth uses a bunch of consistency strats

[0:51:03] UNHchabo: moonfall saves 6 seconds or so if you do it in The Climb and Tourian Escape 4, but it makes Ridley harder if you're not used to it

[0:51:15] outlawghostcheetah: yeah

[0:51:20] UNHchabo: so i don't use it personally, cause i need an easier ridley fight

[0:51:24] outlawghostcheetah: hard to fight ridley witht the moonwalk

[0:51:34] outlawghostcheetah: fucks me up a lot

[0:51:39] Actu8: moonwalk is great for the cwj backup

[0:53:51] matrixugly: opportunity cost FUNgineer

[0:54:25] outlawghostcheetah: the moat!

[0:54:35] matrixugly: I want to learn the moat for randomizers more than new route

[0:54:52] outlawghostcheetah: fail cwj back up with bomb jumo

[0:54:54] outlawghostcheetah: jump

[0:55:17] outlawghostcheetah: i must have practiced cwj over 1200 times

[0:55:20] Actu8: moat is easy @matrixugly , don't listen to these guys Kappa

[0:55:52] Wladiyeah: Sure slinky! I myself do it one handed! Kappa

[0:56:03] outlawghostcheetah: i do it with my toes

[0:56:27] Wladiyeah: Lol man but I was being for real tho Kappa

[0:56:35] Actu8: showoff @outlawghostcheetah

[0:56:39] outlawghostcheetah: lol

[0:58:23] thabanana: like pool, you have to think where the cue ball ends up

[0:58:28] Wladiyeah: If u don't bonk at the door b4 laying the pb u will jump way too far and u won't get cwj! Right?

[0:58:54] Actu8: cue ball positioning is vital

[0:58:57] TrueMoss: @Wladiyeah it is the most consistent setup

[0:59:16] Wladiyeah: Thanks moss

[0:59:38] Stay_Hydrated_Bot: @kipp stayhyBottle You've been live for just over 1 hour. By this point in your broadcast you should have consumed at least 4oz (120mL) of water to maintain optimum hydration.

[0:59:43] TrueMoss: https://wiki.supermetroid.run/The_Moat

[1:00:01] Actu8: yeah it's definitely possible without bonking the door

[1:00:19] TrueMoss: https://wiki.supermetroid.run/Bomb_Jump

[1:00:29] Wladiyeah: Without bonking the door slinky? Wow

[1:00:56] matrixugly: are we gonna get some metronome strats?

[1:01:05] outlawghostcheetah: reset haven

[1:03:15] Actu8: just do what overfiend does ceriSmart

[1:03:40] FreyasSpirit: someone should write that up

[1:03:42] Wladiyeah: Yeah in this case the backup strat for the moat is a real thing

[1:03:52] FreyasSpirit: everyone constantly questions how frame perfect it is

[1:03:55] FreyasSpirit: but nobody seems to actually know

[1:03:56] behemoth87: cwj backup is hard if missile pack is still there

[1:04:03] behemoth87: otherwise it's really good

[1:04:07] Actu8: overfiend said you can get a 1 frame into 2 frame walljump from in the room

[1:04:11] thabanana: 1/60 second

[1:04:19] thabanana: 16.6666.. ms

[1:04:37] Actu8: easy

[1:04:45] Wladiyeah: Yo behe I've seen u doing cwj as a backup strat in most after missing it and it looks hard asf tho lol :D Kappa

[1:05:01] UNHchabo: @FreyasSpirit from the wiki: "The actual walljump itself normally has a two frame window, but can be only a one frame window instead depending on your starting location before running and jumping towards the beam. The jump towards the beam is always a one frame window."

[1:05:07] matrixugly: oh I just got CWJ first time ever :D

[1:05:08] behemoth87: yeah wlad

[1:05:09] OldSchooLTribe: yea that's right trs

[1:05:14] OldSchooLTribe: there's two setups

[1:05:18] Actu8: nice 1 @matrixugly

[1:05:21] matrixugly: got my practice rom following along

[1:05:21] behemoth87: door jump is quite a bit easier than room entry tho

[1:05:22] Actu8: first try?

[1:07:27] Wladiyeah: Moonwalk helps a lot to moonwalk backwards and not entering the room! Cause it's very tight and close! :D

[1:07:36] thabanana: jack has moat ptsd

[1:07:41] thabanana: Kappa

[1:07:48] Actu8: h*ck jack

[1:10:56] OldSchooLTribe: twocat has tutorial for this too

[1:11:09] Actu8: sweetnumb does too

[1:11:17] Actu8: the picture guide

[1:11:17] OldSchooLTribe: yes

[1:11:37] thabanana: TURN AROUND!

[1:11:53] outlawghostcheetah: yeah lots of little taps

[1:11:54] Actu8: BRIGHT EYES

[1:12:01] OldSchooLTribe: every now and then

[1:12:28] outlawghostcheetah: tap forward bomb tap forward third bomb hit left then a quick tap forward again

[1:12:33] matrixugly: Oh I didn't know about the face right after the 3rd bomb

[1:12:39] thabanana: just remember to turn around

[1:12:50] thabanana: i think that's like what most people don

[1:12:54] thabanana: don't get

[1:12:55] behemoth87: tap forward to fall vertically onto top right of bomb #2

[1:13:17] Actu8: @matrixugly need to tap right before 2nd bomb explodes

[1:15:29] UNHchabo: https://wiki.supermetroid.run/Continuous_Wall_Jump

[1:16:13] TrueMoss: https://wiki.supermetroid.run/Stop_on_a_Dime

[1:16:53] matrixugly: ah yeah

[1:16:58] matrixugly: I see the bounce

[1:17:55] thabanana: haha

[1:17:59] Wladiyeah: Figuring out the right amount of time bomb jump takes is the main cue for me in order to perform hbj correctly

[1:18:01] thabanana: that song

[1:18:05] RhokubeeAX: holy cow

[1:18:12] RhokubeeAX: that is so cool

[1:18:54] Actu8: no unmorph PogChamp

[1:18:54] TGDerp: i'm kinda thinking of vengabus for the beat of this one

[1:19:34] RhokubeeAX: who else hears that every time now

[1:19:40] Wladiyeah: I've done hbj unmorphing through the moat as well but it's kinda tricky :D

[1:19:45] MechaShiva76: i think it's nice to practice in the prior room too. across the 2 humps in the room

[1:19:45] TrueMoss: strong and wrong

[1:20:26] Wladiyeah: Sometimes when I'm doing hbj I kinda follow my controller to the right and I get it! Kappa :D

[1:23:13] matrixugly: yes!

[1:23:16] Wladiyeah: And one more thing.... u gotta have a really good dpad.... otherwise you'll get stuck at moat forever! Kappa

[1:26:01] Wladiyeah: And let's just assume everybody here knows the right position of Samus when she touches the missile pack in order to execute cwj! Like she's gotta be right in the middle of it?

[1:26:53] Actu8: ocean is the hardest part of new route, right? @galen83 :D

[1:31:22] ShinyZeni: dude I totally just boned myself in LN on PRKD. You're gonna wreck me on Tuesday LUL

[1:33:03] Wladiyeah: And while doing all this u have to realize that arm pumping all the time makes it a bit faster

[1:33:27] Wladiyeah: I mean arm pumping though the whole game makes it faster Kappa :D

[1:33:42] Wladiyeah: Through Kappa

[1:34:08] Kipp: yo zeni thanks for the host dude

[1:34:17] ShinyZeni: yep :)

[1:34:25] ShinyZeni: gonna go make dinner and stuff

[1:34:30] ShinyZeni: hope the stream goes well :)

[1:34:40] Wladiyeah: I hardly ever arm pump through the game cause of it's one handed set up is really hard :D

[1:34:45] ShinyZeni: heyyyy this isn't Behemoth DansGame

[1:35:08] ARealCutie: it's like 1.9% supers on the atomics

[1:35:13] ARealCutie: health is far more likely

[1:36:01] Actu8: false advertising @shinyzeni DansGame

[1:36:14] Kipp: I think they can technically drop pbs too

[1:36:18] ShinyZeni: -unsubscribe shinyzRage-

[1:36:19] Kipp: but it's pretty rare

[1:36:26] ARealCutie: yeah same rate as supers

[1:36:34] ARealCutie: missiles and large health are generally what you'll see

[1:36:39] Kipp: plus usually if I farm anything in attic, it's because I need health

[1:36:46] Kipp: if I dont need health I just run through typically

[1:36:50] Actu8: clickbait title Kappa

[1:36:58] ARealCutie: yeah for sure that sounds about right there are far better places to get supers than the attic

[1:37:01] Kipp: I hope behemoth doesnt sue me

[1:37:10] Actu8: haha

[1:37:14] Wladiyeah: If u r low on health you'll prob get only health drops Kappa

[1:37:17] matrixugly: I know this is back a bit, but currently CWJ and the moonwalk set up into the door is working more for me. gotta grind HBJ

[1:38:01] Actu8: yeah @matrixugly

[1:38:13] Actu8: I like the in room cwj

[1:38:46] matrixugly: frick. 3 43's old route

[1:38:54] lildingus: i shall allow my nephew to participate

[1:39:04] Wladiyeah: Wtf arc got a 43? Congrats man!

[1:39:12] Actu8: h*ck jack

[1:39:13] ARealCutie: thanks! 28 igt too

[1:39:22] Actu8: smashed his pb

[1:39:27] MechaShiva76: that's nuts @ARealCutie congrats PogChamp

[1:39:54] Wladiyeah: But ov is gon b the next to get a 41! He'll make history! :D

[1:40:08] Actu8: maybe twocat

[1:40:16] MechaShiva76: well... i wouldn't bet against twocat ;)

[1:40:17] Actu8: or thabanana

[1:40:27] Actu8: get that 41 nana

[1:40:42] Wladiyeah: Yeah twocat is targeted too :D

[1:41:10] ARealCutie: i mained a noob dboost in that room until 45

[1:41:35] InsaneFirebat: I've been running for 4 years and I still haven't adopted the skree boost

[1:42:24] ARealCutie: oh that's slick

[1:46:20] UNHchabo: if you have shot before the door you don't need to press it right before the mockball, which helps me

[1:47:15] behemoth87: good idea to unmorph and then face left down that shaft

[1:47:30] behemoth87: then kago so already facing right

[1:47:32] Kipp: yeah it made it a little more consistent for me

[1:47:49] behemoth87: PogChamp

[1:47:49] Kipp: I tried sitting on top of the bomb at first

[1:48:39] behemoth87: mgtow Kappa

[1:49:48] matrixugly: would be cool to see hbj in slow mo

[1:49:54] Wladiyeah: I don't split anymore too behe! I like the igt time better than the IRT time Kappa :D

[1:50:17] behemoth87: need to take timer off stream next

[1:50:23] behemoth87: literally dont need it anymore

[1:50:27] Actu8: watch twocat's youtube vid at 0.25x speed @matrixugly

[1:50:36] Wladiyeah: Looooool behe Kappa

[1:51:00] MechaShiva76: mr behemoth, you should put your pb video on your stream. once you take the trouble to do all that, you're sure to immediately pb :D

[1:51:22] behemoth87: there's still a big handful of strats i don't do for consistency

[1:51:22] Wladiyeah: I'm doing no split and no timer runs behe! BloodTrail

[1:51:48] behemoth87: have it playing back mecha ?

[1:52:00] Actu8: ghost pb vid

[1:52:04] behemoth87: no timer at all runs lol

[1:52:07] behemoth87: not even igt

[1:52:28] MechaShiva76: lol

[1:52:50] Wladiyeah: No deer force % behe Kappa

[1:53:02] behemoth87: no runs runs

[1:53:28] Wladiyeah: No runs wr % :D Kappa

[1:53:43] Actu8: ceri1 ceri2

[1:53:44] behemoth87: if a strat feels convoluted chances are you can simplify it with no cost

[1:53:46] Actu8: ceri3 ceri4

[1:53:55] EODTex: rwkr

[1:53:57] EODTex: rekt

[1:54:04] Actu8: :(

[1:54:46] TrueMoss: he's good.

[1:54:59] behemoth87: no problemo

[1:55:09] Wladiyeah: Thank u Kipp and Moss! BloodTrail ;)

[1:55:32] Kipp: thanks everybody!

[1:55:34] matrixugly: good stuff

[1:55:34] UNHchabo: hey Kipp btw, is this song yours, or someone else?

[1:55:41] Kipp: this is Ewan Dobson

[1:55:45] Actu8: ^

[1:55:47] TrueMoss: thanks all, thanks @behemoth87

[1:55:56] Wladiyeah: See u next stream behe BloodTrail

[1:55:59] Kipp: yo Freyguy thanks for the sub!

[1:55:59] UNHchabo: thanks for the show :)

[1:56:05] Actu8: time 2, is it?

[1:56:13] Kipp: welcome back to the stratusphere and enjoy your glod HJB southe1Glod

[1:56:20] Kipp: yeah

[1:56:24] Kipp: I like this song a lot

[1:56:29] Kipp: and I figured a stream about speed running

[1:56:32] Kipp: perfect song title

[1:56:42] Actu8: yeah

[1:56:58] Actu8: ceriNessie

[1:58:18] Kipp: thanks again everybody