VOD: https://youtu.be/VXGUwAziPiE [0:00:00] TrueMoss: About OT start.... [0:00:01] KonaChocolate: :D / [0:00:03] Maniacal42: "stream is about ot start"? but yeah [0:00:08] Maniacal42: looks awesome [0:00:10] LovelyBunny89: This is the first strat chat for me. [0:00:13] KonaChocolate: Oh i messed it up [0:00:14] KonaChocolate: mb :( [0:00:17] TrueMoss: reverse to order :P [0:00:21] KonaChocolate: @kipp you can edit that btw [0:00:21] Maniacal42: ^ [0:00:21] theClarevoyant: i hear muuuuuusic [0:00:42] TrueMoss: love it Kona! <3 <3 [0:00:50] KonaChocolate: <3 [0:01:06] Maniacal42: I love the landing site in the bg. Looks slick. [0:01:14] SuperNinTaylor: Teach me to be the best. [0:01:46] Maniacal42: this is a good week for me to be able to be here, because my boss fights are definitely the weakest part of my game [0:01:59] fruitbatsalad: i heard sloaters27 was named after the refill station at the bottom of red tower. maybe we'll learn about that [0:02:16] theClarevoyant: fruitbGood [0:02:22] TrueMoss: @fruitbatsalad we HAVE to ask that now. [0:02:24] fruitbatsalad: hi clare fruitbGood [0:02:54] theClarevoyant: SloatersRefill [0:03:01] theClarevoyant: nope. doesn't work here. [0:03:19] Maniacal42: mic is struggling a bit [0:03:24] fruitbatsalad: mic is choppy [0:03:33] fruitbatsalad: truemoss sounds good. kipp is choppy [0:03:34] Maniacal42: moss is SeemsGood [0:03:49] TrueMoss: i always sound good :) [0:03:59] Maniacal42: NotLikeThis [0:04:10] Maniacal42: link clip plz [0:04:50] theClarevoyant: :O [0:05:53] Maniacal42: still choppy [0:05:54] Wumpus_Yob: yo, waddup kipp [0:06:15] fruitbatsalad: truemoss sounds good. kipp still choppy [0:06:17] Maniacal42: Moss is good, we hear Kipp and he's choppy [0:06:22] theClarevoyant: can hear both, only kipp is broken up [0:06:28] LovelyBunny89: ^ same [0:06:33] fruitbatsalad: i've had this problem with my mic before. restarting my computer is the only thing I could do to help [0:06:39] Zohdin: o/ [0:07:11] Kipp: ok [0:07:13] Edu207: Based Kona [0:07:15] Wumpus_Yob: kona is awesome [0:07:16] KonaChocolate: ayy <3 [0:07:18] Kipp: so im gonna have moss go ahead and interview Sloaters [0:07:21] Maniacal42: Kona SeemsGood [0:07:22] Kipp: I will try to fix my issues rq [0:08:12] fruitbatsalad: truemoss and sloaters sound good [0:08:20] Maniacal42: Sloaters97 is a 100 SeemsGood [0:09:02] Maniacal42: that new any% time Kreygasm [0:09:46] Maniacal42: choppy Kipp [0:09:47] theClarevoyant: choppy [0:09:48] Zohdin: choppy [0:09:52] toastytoasts: A bit choppy yeah [0:09:56] Wumpus_Yob: it's the same [0:10:03] theClarevoyant: its tolerable tho. carry on [0:11:46] KonaChocolate: FIXED [0:11:46] Maniacal42: A+ Kipp [0:11:46] KonaChocolate: ! [0:11:47] fruitbatsalad: Kipp, audio is good now! [0:11:53] theClarevoyant: ooooh much better! no choppy [0:11:54] Maniacal42: Not choppy! maniac71Try [0:11:59] fruitbatsalad: fruitbGood [0:12:10] Wumpus_Yob: that's as it should be. friendly rivalries are great. step up your game, moss [0:12:39] TrueMoss: nice wumpus ;) [0:12:56] InsaneFirebat: I'm always late :( [0:16:39] richman3mm: ban any% [0:16:54] SuperNinTaylor: I banned it in my race [0:17:20] OwlRTA: crab climbing [0:17:33] OwlRTA: lol [0:17:35] toastytoasts: @SuperNinTaylor Great race ! [0:17:40] SuperNinTaylor: Thanks [0:17:55] SuperNinTaylor: Sloppy early game, but strong finish. [0:18:01] theClarevoyant: CrabClimb [0:18:31] toastytoasts: yeah you nailed so many moves and tricks [0:19:34] toastytoasts: also saw you won the alttp race gg on dat SeemsGood [0:19:57] Maniacal42: can we do a strat chat: springball with sloaters? [0:20:22] richman3mm: dude I'll hop in on that. springball strat chat sounds hype [0:20:23] icallpeach: Hey! [0:20:36] Kipp: yo peach :) [0:21:16] InsaneFirebat: Sloaters #1 [0:21:27] richman3mm: all luck [0:21:33] icallpeach: Ohhhhh Sloaters! [0:22:24] ThisIsGunstar1: wait, i thought it was sloaters97? [0:23:30] richman3mm: solaters wants that rematch after I finish the derust [0:24:00] DiabolicalWench: diabolWERP WENCH RAID diabolWERP [0:24:04] DiabolicalWench: :P [0:24:15] Kipp: :) [0:24:27] DiabolicalWench: <3 [0:24:33] toastytoasts: PogChamp [0:24:43] DiabolicalWench: diabolCHAMP [0:28:16] Indis099: Sup Kipp [0:28:23] DiabolicalWench: unless your me and softlock [0:28:26] DiabolicalWench: :P [0:28:32] theClarevoyant: lol [0:28:41] TrueMoss: lol sup wench :) [0:28:48] DiabolicalWench: sup truemoss [0:28:53] DiabolicalWench: :D [0:30:11] DiabolicalWench: ntm just chillin @TrueMoss how are you :D [0:30:28] TrueMoss: I'm great, thanks! [0:32:25] toastytoasts: thanks sloaters! [0:32:39] TrueMoss: Sloaters <3 <3 [0:32:39] theClarevoyant: :D [0:32:48] theClarevoyant: gg sloaters! [0:33:05] richman3mm: sloaters learn rotation!! [0:33:08] DiabolicalWench: bye SLOATS <3 [0:33:13] Wumpus_Yob: speaking of rbo, did you guys see zeni got wr? [0:33:22] sloaters27: HeyGuys [0:33:29] DiabolicalWench: @sloaters27 <3 [0:33:44] fruitbatsalad: gg Kona [0:33:46] KonaChocolate: np yo ;) [0:33:48] Maniacal42: zeni got it? He was saying it was a day or so out [0:33:54] DiabolicalWench: @KonaChocolate :D YAY [0:34:08] DiabolicalWench: @KonaChocolate got a portfolio? [0:34:36] DiabolicalWench: heya @TrueMoss look at the flow [0:34:44] KonaChocolate: I think i do ! @DiabolicalWench [0:35:07] KonaChocolate: I have some old stuff added to imgur dunno if that works ;) @DiabolicalWench [0:35:19] DiabolicalWench: sure whisper me it [0:35:47] DiabolicalWench: old route is e [0:35:52] DiabolicalWench: where its at * [0:35:56] sloaters27: old route FeelsGoodMan [0:36:03] InsaneFirebat: doppler ftw [0:36:29] InsaneFirebat: wiki.supermetroid.run/Phantoon ? [0:36:33] sloaters27: bingo [0:36:48] Kipp: yall all feel free to add in tips in chat [0:36:53] InsaneFirebat: I love that those are easy to type now. ty Total [0:36:58] Kipp: we all approach it slightly different [0:37:04] Kipp: so please add your knowledge :) [0:37:20] xancient_gamerx: are you going over the hybrid strats ? [0:37:32] Kipp: yes I will go over my hybrid strat [0:37:38] xancient_gamerx: Okay, cool [0:39:20] Wumpus_Yob: that's basically the way I did it. save a state so you know the first pattern, then practice that 1 pattern and all 4 2nd round patterns as they come [0:39:39] Wumpus_Yob: next day change the first pattern, etc [0:42:07] OwlRTA: if you make a save state in Phantoon on the SNES Classic, it should give the same pattern [0:42:22] fruitbatsalad: on SD2SNES i made multiple copies of the practice rom so i could keep a save state for each 1st round pattern [0:42:39] xancient_gamerx: I use the Popplars version, but I've never seen Kipp's [0:42:49] OwlRTA: I pretend to doppler :P [0:42:54] Kipp: 2500 [0:42:59] xancient_gamerx: ^^ used to do that [0:43:01] Kipp: super = 600 [0:43:41] OwlRTA: or you get the special frame :P [0:45:42] DiabolicalWench: hi noob here how do you even do x factor [0:45:56] DiabolicalWench: i know you hace bombs on but lol [0:46:08] Kipp: ok dw [0:46:14] Kipp: we'll go over it further but here's the basics [0:46:22] Kipp: an x factor is one of the special beam attacks [0:46:24] Kipp: SBA [0:46:30] Kipp: it's the wave special beam attack [0:46:45] Kipp: if you only have wave beam equipped, and have power bombs selected [0:46:57] Kipp: you can charge your shot, and after a short time, the x factor will begin [0:47:02] DiabolicalWench: yeh i know that part but even when i charge the beam they dont hapen [0:47:08] DiabolicalWench: oh ok [0:47:08] Kipp: other beams have different SBAs, but x factor is the most used by far [0:47:30] Kipp: so sbas are associated with one single beam, and pbs [0:51:01] Wumpus_Yob: as you're learning patterns, you learn the right times to start charging [0:52:11] Kipp: it's for Super Metroid specifically, since that is the game we run primarily [0:53:21] Kipp: yeah thatd be pretty hard [0:53:29] fruitbatsalad: blossom you might like the Frame Savers podcast - it's like an audio version of that [0:53:35] Kipp: at least for me I'm barely decent at one game haha [0:53:38] Kipp: but it is a great idea for sure [0:53:52] Kipp: yeah and this strat chat is featured on Frame Savers! [0:54:04] Kipp: since I am a patreon of their show [0:54:17] Kipp: it's great, Authorblues is one of the host, super great guy [0:54:46] Maniacal42: have you mentioned delaying SBA by turning? [0:55:07] Kipp: no feel free to add info maniacal [0:55:07] sloaters27: moss mentioned it [0:55:23] Kipp: oh yeah, im sorry I meant that I wasnt going to cover it [0:55:23] Maniacal42: okay, missed it. Minor thing that I thought relevant [0:55:39] Kipp: he doesnt because he literally cant [0:55:46] Kipp: in his route he doesnt have wave beam yet [0:56:15] Wumpus_Yob: dbx goes over flame lame backup strats where you do 2 charged shots [0:57:00] Wumpus_Yob: so that's 3 more strats to leanr if you're going all out [0:57:14] Kipp: 2500 dmg needed [0:57:18] Kipp: x factor = 1200 [0:57:25] Kipp: super missle = 600 [0:57:33] Kipp: reg missiles = 700 [0:57:37] sloaters27: i hate saying this but phantoon is one of those things that you just need to do dozens and dozens of times to really get the feel for [0:57:46] xancient_gamerx: ^^ [0:57:49] Wumpus_Yob: billions of times [0:58:05] sloaters27: once you get all this info absorbed, you need to apply it a TON to really understand it [0:58:08] InsaneFirebat: never stop doing Phantoon [0:58:52] Wumpus_Yob: and when you put in the practice, you will probably come up with your own variations [1:00:08] sloaters27: wheres keku with the phantoon sound effects [1:00:25] ReaperKiing: eh oh! [1:00:30] Maniacal42: coolFANT coolFANT coolFANT coolFANT [1:05:16] InsaneFirebat: That mid left is actually kinda hard to hit from the left [1:05:21] InsaneFirebat: Flames tend to block shots [1:05:30] InsaneFirebat: only pattern I struggle with [1:14:27] xancient_gamerx: that is exactly what I needed. Thanks [1:17:52] dytmook: Bring in sloaters97 [1:18:11] InsaneFirebat: fasters97 [1:18:15] Kipp: lol [1:18:29] Wumpus_Yob: round 2 right mid is pretty east with the 2nd x factor too [1:18:34] Wumpus_Yob: easy [1:18:53] Kipp: yeah def [1:19:02] Kipp: I think it's the single easiest pattern of all of them [1:19:24] Maniacal42: round 2 right mid is also super common [1:19:29] Maniacal42: it's the one nice thing about Phantoon [1:19:33] InsaneFirebat: yeah, it's the one I tried to teach first to my family members learning the fight [1:19:49] Kipp: nice [1:20:35] dytmook: Don't die [1:21:19] StaticNine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWsZ3mqFPw [1:21:24] StaticNine: doppler timing [1:21:25] Kipp: yo static [1:21:44] StaticNine: sup [1:21:46] Kipp: yeah that youtube video is excellent [1:22:05] StaticNine: i watch it once a day before runs to get it in my head [1:22:24] Kipp: smart [1:23:05] StaticNine: also, there is an important color change from 1600-1500 health, which lets u know if u need 5+super or 6+super [1:24:59] InsaneFirebat: I had to train myself to check my ammo count before the doppler to know how many missiles I got off. Subtract any that I noticed missed [1:26:01] InsaneFirebat: wow [1:26:03] InsaneFirebat: fast right [1:26:10] Maniacal42: "O [1:26:14] Maniacal42: :O * [1:26:42] StaticNine: im terrible at counting so i don't count. just rely on his color [1:26:44] Maniacal42: are those 1/256? [1:27:31] StaticNine: the time it takes phantoon to swing back on screen differs with each pattern too [1:27:34] Kipp: I actualy never knew that color information [1:27:40] Kipp: until you mentioned it on discord the other day [1:27:53] StaticNine: ya its super convenient [1:28:00] Maniacal42: I didn't/don't know it at all... can we go through it? [1:28:33] Kipp: im sorry maniacal, what was that? [1:28:40] Kipp: I dont think I followed the convo [1:28:42] Maniacal42: phantoon color changes [1:28:45] Kipp: oh yeah [1:28:53] Kipp: once you've done 1000 damage, color changes [1:29:07] StaticNine: it changes once before that, but i don't know when [1:29:13] Kipp: ah [1:29:15] Cheatyface4: cheatyMire [1:29:20] Kipp: yo cheaty [1:29:27] sloaters27: cheaty PogChamp [1:29:35] Cheatyface4: sloaters69 Kreygasm [1:30:28] sloaters27: how did KH2 go? [1:30:29] dytmook: cheatyMire cheatyMire cheatyMire [1:30:40] Cheatyface4: I didn't play tonight. [1:30:43] Cheatyface4: I just got home [1:31:03] sloaters27: you didnt finish the other night did you? [1:31:10] Cheatyface4: from 9 am to 10 pm NotLikeThis [1:31:11] icallpeach: :) [1:31:18] Cheatyface4: I didn't. I [1:31:23] sloaters27: okay good [1:31:24] Cheatyface4: I'm working on materials [1:31:31] Cheatyface4: gonna finish tomorrow probably [1:32:01] sloaters27: kipp going in [1:32:06] Cheatyface4: savage af [1:34:47] StaticNine: i've got a new strat for hundo for that room that might also work in old route any [1:34:55] OwlRTA: My strat there is to shoot up, and angle up to the left on the top of the stairs [1:35:41] StaticNine: i've got a slightly complicated way to shoot out the blocks in a way that u don't need to lay a bomb to bounce up in the hole [1:36:34] StaticNine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNzrdGiX0Lk [1:37:52] OwlRTA: https://clips.twitch.tv/FrozenKindPartridgeHeyGirl [1:38:41] InsaneFirebat: Nice, I've never seen it like that @CanadianOwl98 [1:40:28] InsaneFirebat: Oh, I started keeping the spark on screen to avoid hitting it, but I don't farm the drop. [1:40:52] InsaneFirebat: Didn't realize I only had to leave it on screen for a bit [1:41:27] Cheatyface4: omg [1:41:31] Cheatyface4: I just realized [1:41:36] Cheatyface4: those tvs have metroids on them [1:41:41] Cheatyface4: how did I never see that [1:41:54] Maniacal42: for an even more beginner-friendly attic, you can super the first atomic while you charge and then spark lower [1:41:56] dytmook: Bc you're so focused in this room [1:43:04] DiabolicalWench: OHHH NOOO this room *cries* i soft locked in here today [1:43:07] StaticNine: be careful with the practice hack in WRITG, it's a lot less laggy [1:43:13] DiabolicalWench: whyyyyy whyyyy [1:43:18] dytmook: F for you wench [1:43:30] DiabolicalWench: i ran out of super bombs [1:43:44] DiabolicalWench: *cries* [1:44:06] StaticNine: probably not too bad with old route any+plasma [1:45:34] FrenchLightningJohn: not ki-hunter, space pirate [1:45:52] DiabolicalWench: ^ [1:46:00] DiabolicalWench: I didnt wanna say anything [1:46:01] DiabolicalWench: Lmsoo [1:46:03] DiabolicalWench: lmao [1:46:08] dytmook: Meh I know what he means [1:46:21] Wumpus_Yob: that strat is position-based instead of timing based [1:46:32] Avrysatos: hello guest! [1:46:36] FrenchLightningJohn: LUL [1:47:24] Avrysatos: KonCha [1:48:35] Avrysatos: o_o [1:49:03] dytmook: Sephy uses that [1:49:19] Cheatyface4: I used that one for awhile. [1:49:24] Avrysatos: I didn't know there was more than one strat for this room wow... [1:49:34] Cheatyface4: I wouldn't recommend [1:49:39] Cheatyface4: at least for newer runners [1:49:48] OwlRTA: I have a strat for this room that involves killing two of the pirates with one shot https://clips.twitch.tv/CrepuscularPlacidElephantEagleEye [1:50:00] DiabolicalWench: the next room fucks me too [1:50:14] dytmook: It does us all [1:50:18] Wumpus_Yob: it's probabaly better to just kill that one in old route [1:51:03] Cheatyface4: s l o a t y Kreygasm [1:51:07] sloaters27: thanks for having me :) [1:51:19] dytmook: Sloaters sloaters sloaters [1:51:28] Cheatyface4: if you don't follow sloaters you're living your life wrong FUNgineer [1:51:38] dytmook: ^ [1:51:47] Wumpus_Yob: thanks guys. good stuff [1:52:17] InsaneFirebat: thanks for the show @Kipp @TrueMoss @sloaters27 [1:52:19] Wumpus_Yob: wait if he's sloaters27, then who is sloaters87? [1:52:29] OwlRTA: crosby Kappa [1:52:39] dytmook: They're multiplying @wumpus_yob [1:52:53] dytmook: Don't ask me [1:52:58] sloaters27: Master Foosda Kreygasm [1:53:06] Cheatyface4: sensei PogChamp [1:53:22] dytmook: Get his memeness sephy [1:54:38] sloaters27: Runs Begins....Over [1:55:09] FrenchLightningJohn: night [1:55:17] TrueMoss: update that any% time. no longer 19th.... :) [1:55:26] InsaneFirebat: didn't get to see final split! [1:55:33] InsaneFirebat: lol jk [1:55:55] Kipp: haha [1:55:56] richman3mm: dude. low% ice pb? [1:55:57] Kipp: my bad dude [1:56:05] richman3mm: what is happening to me. [1:56:08] fruitbatsalad: was that a strat chat PB? gg [1:56:22] richman3mm: also seems like another good strat chat. keep it up guys [1:56:24] TrueMoss: yeah, gold split on strat chat [1:56:35] sloaters27: i wonder what strat chat SoB is :thinking: [1:56:41] fruitbatsalad: thanks for the show [1:56:45] richman3mm: lol [1:56:51] Kipp: thanks everybody <3 [1:57:44] Cheatyface4: deerCozy [1:58:04] Kipp: lol [1:58:08] Kipp: we def dropped our sob tonight [1:58:28] Kipp: I'll be back in a bit [1:58:31] Kipp: yall all have a good one :) [1:58:35] richman3mm: later man